Flame Imperishable

Recently in the past few months I've notice a change in people in Flame (I'm not pointing at anyone) most are gone now anyway. I have no idea what others people think a Kin should be. Most of us joined Flame because of it's laid back attitude and friendly people. It seems since Moria things are changing, people leaving because we don't raid, we don't meet all their needs, attitudes and whatever other crap people say. Wild and the officers had a meeting on Saturday to discuss how WE could make Flame better for OUR members, setting up times when we would be available to help members with their needs, book runs, raids. During that time a Member accused people of setting up "secrete runs", another left because we were having a meeting and thought the whole kin should be involved, and we all know about the prior Exits of other members. I've always tried to help people in this kin, joke, have a good time, make friends. The stuff you get out of the game, armour whatever means NOTHING to me. However it seems to mean alot to a lot of you. I don't know whats happening to you guys, but I don't like it. If I wanted to play with hard core gamers I would have never joined Flame, if I wanted to see my online friends leave one by one, I would have never joined a Kin. I dont know what happend, when did Flame become about me me me, just the way it seems to be going to me.

I have no intentions of ever leaving this kin, and I think the members who have recently left have made a huge mistake. This kinship, although it may be laid back with raids a bit, is one of the best kins out there because of it's friendly community. Armour is nice to have, but there is a lot more to the game and leaving for a hardcore raiding kin to get it faster would be a huge mistake. The "secret runs" was a slight misunderstanding, I was just annoyed that a few in the kin were planning to run the same instance as I had already planned on the kin site and were unable to attend the one scheduled. I overlooked the fact that not all check the kinship website and will try to be more communicative with the raids I schedule. I think all of us should try to do that as well, through uses of kin message, etc. more often. Sorry for any disturbance about that. Perhaps we will get some of the recently departed members back sometime.

I'm not just pointing out that incident DT, a lot of things have been bothering me lately, I have not been on for a few days, because i'm seriously considering leaving the kin if not the game. I just remember how much fun it used to be, I have memories that still to this day crack me up. Seems we used to have FUN, lots of laughing and joking, now it seems to be a whole lot of attitude going on. You forget the night before your planned run you were in a pug group for the Forges, no one called you out on that-this game is suppose to be about fun. IDK, I've just noticed a lot of changes in people thought we were all kind of friends in Flame, take the good and the bad but doesnt seem to be that way anymore, leaving is now the answer to everything, just click the button and poof your gone, never mind those you leave behind cuz it's all about YOU, and I dont want to play with people who think only of themselves. I either have to learn not to care about you guys or I have to go...I'm still trying to figure that out, tired of being hurt.

{deleted post} Ilea wrote:

I just remember how much fun it used to be, I have memories that still to this day crack me up. Seems we used to have FUN, lots of laughing and joking, now it seems to be a whole lot of attitude going on.

Okay, I do not post much. I left the kin long ago not for any of them reasons, was more a time difference thingy.
But one thing I never forgot was what you did Ilea.. Here my poor cook needed to find a nasty boar. Haha, how many times did I die to go all the way back to the shire.
When I came back to the game, it is them memories, that I instantly looked up Nurel to join again. I may not group or raid or do things like that much but all who I talk with or joke with early in the mornings, sure makes the game better.

and pfft, you all have lots of raids and some going out of their way to make sure members get things like boots or whatever. I do not know what more someone could ask for..

OH well, I am just saying I think the kin is a wonderful group of people.

Just want to say, the leave button for me would never because the kin doesnt fit my needs(Not that I am ever thinking of leaving). This Kin is great because we do everything, and the community is fun.

Again, my apologies for the incident saturday, I thought it was some planned kin event I didnt hear about. I was wrong to accuse you all of "secret runs".

All I have now to say is..

LETS have a

I co-founded Flame Imperishable April 30, 2007 and have seen many people come and go from then until now. Flame had a very rocky start with our then leader leaving on an unannounced 2 month hiatus leaving me with no website priveleges (the old website, not this one), no guild/kinship leadership experience and only my Officers rank to fall back on. After 2 months of dreaming, hoping and praying I was able to keep Flame afloat in spite of everything by sticking to my beliefs that Flame should be a Kinship different from the others.

I assumed full leadership of Flame Imperishable in October 2007 and immediately dove into addressing the many problems that a Kinship faces, some of which we still suffer from today, but I have never once wavered on the core belief that this Kinship was founded upon: having fun helping each other to have fun. Have I always had fun? I will not lie and say that I have and a few times I have wanted to give up as I have watched people leave, good people that I have counted as friends, but despite it all I made a commitment to each and every member of this Kinship when I invited them in, to stay the course through any and all adversity.

I believe that we are a Kinship in our prime at this time. Though multiple members have left recently we find our numbers larger than ever before and I think there-in lies some of the difference in "feeling" that some of us may notice. We are no longer a small Kinship of 10 close-knit members we are a Kinship of many and there is strength in numbers.

So I challenge each and every one of us: make an attempt to get to know one another, openly participate in kinship chat and ask for help from others and allow yourself to be helped by others. We can only address your problems and get you the help you need if you let us know that you need it. Step up and plan/lead raids instead of waiting for someone to happen to plan one for the specific quest that you need. The leadership of this Kinship cannot and will not be able to plan/lead a raid for everything as we all have friends, families and lives outside of this game demanding some of our time as well. I believe that this Kinship has been provided with all of the tools to be a highly successful Kinship such as great members, a good website, a Ventrilo Server etc. so let's all use these to our advantage.

In closing, I think we are and can continue to be a successful Kinship. Do we have problems? Do we face challenges? Yes we do, but instead of running from them let's work them out together, we will be stronger for it. For those who must leave, let them leave. I hold no ill will towards those who have not found what they were looking for in our ranks, but I ask those who see them leave not to be discouraged for the ones who are truly dedicated to this Kinship and its members are the ones who are not leaving, the ones who look the challenges of the future in the eye and choose not to run from them. For those of you who know me, you know I will not run. For those of you who don't, I ask you to get to know me. I will make the time to listen, I will do everything I can to help. I am Flame Imperishable! You are Flame Imperishable! WE are Flame Imperishable... and may forever burn the Flame Imperishable!

The reason why we all are here is to have fun and enjoy ourselves. Like our Great Hobbit Chief has pointed out we all have the option of planning raids and if you need help shout on the kin chat and I am sure most of us will be willing to help out. Sometimes we may be getting ganked in the etten moors so please bear no ill will if we take time in responding.
Anyone leaving causes a lot of pain and I am pretty sure that all of us feel the same. But again we have a lot of lovely and chubby new kin mates. So may the flame bright.

This post was never intended to point anyone out or cause any problems. when I said I was a play it from the heart person I wasn't kidding. Men may view things differently than I, I can not help the way I feel about things. I just didn't like all the leaving, all the spats, etc. For those of you who took this the wrong way, I am truely sorry. I did'nt like my 'friends" getting psst at me because of a misunderstanding. Several things happended in succession it was like bam bam and here's another for good measures in a matter of a week. I went from oo I can't wait to play to why do I bother. So instead of just hitting that "leave the kin button" like everyone else, I wanted to think about it. And I did, I realize I may never get over the way I feel about you guys that play this game, I love this game, I love playing it and I love knowing you all are here the ones that are still here. I know most of you probably dont feel the way I do, this is my problem. I know someday I will leave for good as we all will, I dread that day. But when I leave I want to one day be sitting in my rocking chair, grey and wrinkly, with my head back and a smile on my face when i remember this time of my life. It may be crazy to you, think what you may, it's just the way I am, it's what I want from this game....right, wrong or whatever.

while the rest of my toons left this kin a fair while ago, ive kept one on as a connection, time differences were a major issue to me, its hard to play on your own, which i had to do alot, its sad to hear of you leaving, if you need help, im on mick , dlorfindel , chev , holdur , knophler , anjulie , mithlendial , monaro and darstadly

Thanks Chevy, I re-joined because of the people in Flame.

Everyone has a bad moment from time to time and we all need to remember this is just a game. FP has a lot of great traits to become a multigame Kin/clan. Just dont let the small stuff bother you or take everything so serious. I am hoping that some of FP players will play Diablo 3 when it comes out. I would love to play that game with all of you also. If not oh well these times on LOTRO were fun and memoriable.